13 comments

  • b00ty4breakfast 0 minutes ago
    I could maybe be more amenable to considering his opinion if his product wasn't designed to elicit this kind of behavior in users. Whether 16 hours specifically is the norm or just an extreme outlier, it is still the desired outcome of every decision that goes into engineering and building Instagram.

    eating 20 twinkies a day isn't necessarily the norm but twinkies have been formulated to make you want to eat them.

  • baxtr 12 minutes ago
    It’s good to have a definition in place before a discussion.

    People with addiction use substances or engage in behaviors that become compulsive and often continue despite harmful consequences.

    This is from the American Society of Addiction Medicine.

    You can do your own test if this matches watching short videos extensively.

    https://www.asam.org/quality-care/definition-of-addiction

  • JumpCrisscross 44 minutes ago
    > Adam Mosseri, who has led Instagram for eight years

    This is the light of moral clarity in Mountain View that champions Instagram for Kids [1].

    [1] https://www.npr.org/2021/12/08/1062576576/instagrams-ceo-ada...

    • scarab92 32 minutes ago
      It’s worth keeping in mind that 16 hours was their single highest day of use ever, not their typical daily use.

      I’m sure I’ve spent 16 hours on Netflix or League of Legends in a 24 hour period before, yet my median daily usage is 0 hours, and it wouldn’t be reasonable to describe my usage as an addition either.

      I’m not saying people don’t get addicted to social media, they do, but in this particular case I think his description of problematic is adequate, and this headline is unnecessarily confrontational.

  • godelski 50 minutes ago
    Considering teenagers should get more than 8hrs of sleep, 16 hours means they're losing sleep because they spent more than their waking hours on a single thing...
    • giancarlostoro 45 minutes ago
      Ah yes, my high school years, go to sleep at 1 ~ 2 AM wake up at 5 AM in order to get ready for high school. There was no instagram, insomnia was still terrible. Teens need a lot of sleep time, but I feel like I was way more resilient on less sleep. Compared to now where I can barely function without at least 7 hours of sleep.
  • Surac 28 minutes ago
    If i only look ar it every 8 hours for 10 secs then 16 hours may be ok
  • leosanchez 45 minutes ago
    When does it become an addiction? 26 hours?
  • throwawayk7h 38 minutes ago
    habituation and addiction are technically different. But both can be very damaging.
  • sidcool 8 minutes ago
    "Thank you for smoking"
  • stinkbeetle 30 minutes ago
    He would say that.
  • carabiner 31 minutes ago
    Are we the bad guys then?
    • daniel_iversen 29 minutes ago
      [assuming you work for Meta or a social media company] in theory (and not that debatable IMHO) if the net contribution to society on balance is negative?
  • neya 41 minutes ago
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    • mandeepj 29 minutes ago
      > Added the "Instagram boss" to my personal list

      His compensation package must have these variable components- MAUs, hours spent, engagement etc

    • FrankBooth 30 minutes ago
      AktionT4.md?
  • walletdrainer 1 hour ago
    That seems like it’s probably correct, and utterly unsurprising.

    Why does this deserve a headline?

    • thisislife2 43 minutes ago
      Do you really believe 16 hours of use daily is not indicative of an addiction? It deserves a headline as it is is a controversial statement that aims to minimise criticism against social media platforms and thus needs to be challenged / debated in society. If social media addiction is not treated as a social problem, the people will not pressure the government to regulate it. That is why social media platforms are claiming that it is only (a personal) problem (of some individual) if some use it for 16 hours while others suggest that it has become a societal problem because its users are now addicts. Social problems needs political solutions to address, and in this case one of the suggested ways is government intervention (through regulations).
    • nielsbot 49 minutes ago
      That he said it or that the label “problematic” is correct?
    • bdamm 41 minutes ago
      It is absolutely revealing that the Instagram boss can’t openly admit that 16 hours of daily use is a problem.

      Name one thing that is okay to do for 16 hours a day. One.

      • andsoitis 17 minutes ago
        > It is absolutely revealing that the Instagram boss can’t openly admit that 16 hours of daily use is a problem.

        He literally said it is problematic!

      • atomicapple 34 minutes ago
        > the Instagram boss can’t openly admit that 16 hours of daily use is a problem.

        > Instagram boss says 16 hours of daily use is "problematic"

      • tgv 33 minutes ago
        Not the best argument, as the answer is breathing.
        • DavidPiper 20 minutes ago
          If Instagram is as omnipresent as breathing we still have problem.
        • ta8903 26 minutes ago
          I don't think it's okay to breathe for 16 hours a day.
      • King-Aaron 34 minutes ago
        breathing
  • intellectronica 20 minutes ago
    Technically correct. We can't call every compulsive behaviour "addiction". Using a social app for 16 hours a day is a very serious problem and requires treatment. But it's not addiction in the same sense that other commonly-recognised addictions to substance and even behaviours are.