The Utopia of the Family Computer

(mudmapmagazine.com)

40 points | by surprisetalk 4 days ago

9 comments

  • gensym 54 minutes ago
    This is a lovely bit of writing, and really points to the value of constraints. Some of my favorite childhood memories were being at friends' houses, huddled over the computer, playing Space Quest or Zork. At one of my friends' houses, we were aware that Leisure Suit Larry was installed, and curious, but never played it because of the central location of the machine.

    I think the shift we've seen TV is something similar. When I was a kid, TV was viewed as an antisocial medium ("the boob tube"), but I have really fond memories of sitting with my family watching Quantum Leap or Growing Pains. Now that everyone has their own screen to watch TV, it seems the studios don't even bother trying to make shows that appeal to an entire family.

    We focus so much on the media (tv/internet/video games/books) when ascribing value, but, as this article indicates, the physical nature of the delivery (shared living room appliance vs portable individual screen) makes a huge difference.

    • piker 8 minutes ago
      Yes! And music! What a social thing listening to a CD or watching MTV in someone's room used to be. Now it's just isolating.
  • Lalabadie 1 hour ago
    The fixed computer is also a huge factor to facilitate supervised computer use (and make it a shared experience!) with kids at home.

    As much as I agree with the point of the article, I keep getting tripped up that every second sentence is "It didn't X, it Y'ed".

    I think it's repeated to form a stylistic device in the second paragraph, but then the shape is interspersed so much in the rest of the text that it reads like a clumsy first write.

    • NewsaHackO 1 hour ago
      Yes, this is definitely AI-generated. It's always weird that people don't even attempt to sanitize the output to look a little more human. The last pic was very nostalgic, however. It's like we have shared experiences very similar to the corner computer in the living room, complete with the stack of CDs (which will never get completely used).
      • imiric 50 minutes ago
        I can't say whether this was machine-generated or not, but the reason LLMs use these patterns is because they're often used by humans, which is what they're trained to mimic. LLM spam has now made it annoying, but there are many people who still write like this. Asking them to change their writing patterns because LLMs have ruined it for readers is not just unfair—it's offensive. (See what I did there? Double whammy!)
  • shovas 3 minutes ago
    Requisite youtube video: The Internet Used to Be a Place: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYlcUbLAFmw
  • bwestergard 54 minutes ago
    Poignantly in this instance, Utopia is from "ou-topos" (coined by Sir Thomas More in the early modern period). It literally means "no place".
  • eigencoder 1 hour ago
    Call me old-fashioned, but I have a family computer. I got rid of my laptop, and got a desktop instead. It stays in the living room, in a desk drawer. The monitor is a portable monitor, and it gets put away when the computer is not in use. My kids aren't old enough to use it yet, but it will be the family computer eventually.
    • shovas 1 minute ago
      Legend
    • stephbook 27 minutes ago
      I've never bought a laptop or tablet for this very reason. No big phone (iPhone 13).

      I'm still writting this now, from the couch. I fear how much screen time others waste.

    • bombcar 33 minutes ago
      We used to hide TVs when not in use, also - now we have TVs designed to be "always on" and show artwork instead.

      Out of sight, out of mine - I think it's generally a good idea.

  • dupdup 1 hour ago
    Turkish word for computer is "bilgi-sayar"(info-counter) mag on the image.
  • fellowniusmonk 1 minute ago
    I hated every moment of the family computer era.

    The whole world of information available to become less ignorant and I can only use it for an hour a day.

    As a kid with heart defects who was prohibited from sports and a whole slew of other things, what we have now is fucked up because we've allowed every interaction to become a dopamine casino and we've skinners boxed ourselves straight to hell.

    This kind of nostalgia bait is actively harmful, there are clear patterns businesses based in america use and all that shit should be banned.

    Forcing everyone to use a real Id is an evil, making skinners box patterns illegal is much easier.

  • MORPHOICES 1 hour ago
    [dead]
  • junon 29 minutes ago
    Sorry but is this just completely AI generated? Or does the author really love "not X but Y" devices?