38 comments

  • seer 1 hour ago
    Getting on and off fable this week has been quite interesting. For my personal work stream (big terraform monorepo, hundreds of states) I’ve using mostly superpowers to do heavy / quality work. But with fable, I tried just telling it what to do, and it produced roughly the same results without a big structured back and forth that I was accustomed to.

    Then after using up all my fable allowance I figured let’s see if opus can actually work without superpowers, and no, it was all over the place doing weird things.

    Thing is, superpowers produces meticulous specs and plans as a byproduct of its work, which is very useful for switching between work trees, stoping / resuming work by different people.

    But to do that in Fable you have to spend way more tokens than it’s reasonable. You get similar quality result, but without the specs in between.

    I’m not super sad that I’ll have to go back to opus though, with superpowers it was Fable but more structured. But I will miss the banter though - Fable is amazing for brainstorming big underspecced features.

    • steve_adams_86 12 minutes ago
      I like super powers because I can be more in the loop editing and understanding the plan. Letting fable loose is genuinely impressive, and probably perfect for vibe coding, but I can’t be that far away from the plan and steps for code that matters.

      As for being great for vibe coding, that’s cool but I can’t justify that kind of cost for throwaway code. At this point I’ve had good experiences using fable to review code, but I’m totally content with opus for all of my workflows still. If fable was the same price I’d switch, but I’d still use something like super powers to stay in the loop.

    • chvid 55 minutes ago
      (Not a Claude user) What is "superpowers"?
      • ahofmann 50 minutes ago
        • Culonavirus 37 minutes ago
          Some people just need to complicate things as a state of their natural being. What a tremendous waste of time.
          • AndyNemmity 31 minutes ago
            That's funny, cause I'd argue superpowers barely does anything, and you need a much more complex setup to gain value.
            • steve_adams_86 11 minutes ago
              I find it very useful. What do you use that’s better?
        • appplication 33 minutes ago
          That initially looked pretty interesting but a quick peek through issues and folks are complaining that it’s opinionated on git workflows and overriding user instructions otherwise. No thanks.

          Edit: a deeper look at the issues and there are many examples of it not behaving as intended. Seems superstitious at best.

        • Cider9986 13 minutes ago
          We really got GitHub star inflation before GTA6.
    • try-working 1 hour ago
      This is an interesting comment because it makes me want to ask the question, what is the use for fable then? For me, GPT 5.4 is enough when using recursive-mode. I do appreciate GPT 5.5 Pro for some larger research, architecture, planning tasks though. I think that's what Fable is for. A very small % of total work.
      • notatoad 31 minutes ago
        >planning tasks though. I think that's what Fable is for.

        this is how i've been using it, and where i've found it really excels over anything else i've tried. get fable to write a plan, and get something cheaper to follow the plan. the code fable writes isn't significantly better than the code opus writes, as long as they're both following the same plan. but a plan written by fable is much better.

      • RSZC 45 minutes ago
        > A very small % of total work.

        That seems valid in today's world. Right now it's expensive, slow, and accurate. I imagine in the fairly near future it will be cheap, slow, and accurate, and that'll be a great opportunity to let it run on anything time-insensitive.

        Re current use-cases: in addition to planning, there's also some tasks which Opus just can't complete but Fable can. Multiple times I've spent hours in combination w/ Opus trying to debug some particularly nasty nondeterministic issue, only to have Fable nail it in 20mins while I walk the dog.

      • matheusmoreira 50 minutes ago
        > what is the use for fable then?

        Cybersecurity hardening. The one thing they don't allow the model to do.

  • gwd 0 minutes ago
    Anyone understand what the point is of only extending it for 5 days?
  • somenameforme 1 hour ago
    Does this affect anybody? It seems they didn't reset your Fable usage so this only applies to people who didn't hit their 50%-of-plan limit with Fable and I can't imagine that's many people given how this thing eats through tokens like that's its job. On Pro I generally could not complete a single plan+execution cycle without hitting my token cap, so that 50% of weekly limit got eaten up fast and I assume that's the typical case.

    I suppose it benefits people whose weekly reset is sometime between now and the 12th? Feels like vibe management, because I find this part of the promo more annoying than not.

    • nevi-me 28 minutes ago
      I maximised usage and have reached the limit. I feel like I did 2 week's worth of hobby work over the last few days.

      I got Fable to write multiple plans, spent a great part of the weekend reviewing them. Then with superpowers I left must of those plans executing with little intervention over the past few days.

      I struggled to get Opus to just keep going without trying to convince me that it's late.

    • isodev 8 minutes ago
      I tried it but the difference to Opus didn’t seem to justify the extra cost and stress around these limits.

      The Max plan at 180€/month excl VAT already comes up for budget review every time. Not sure any sort of increase will be tolerated at all.

    • Retr0id 26 minutes ago
      Personally, I forgot the initial deadline was so soon and hadn't found anything to use it for yet.
    • bdelmas 40 minutes ago
      I was planning on using it all until today so I burned quite a lot yesterday.
    • phinnaeus 1 hour ago
      > I can't imagine that's many people

      Well, I don't know how many people it is but I certainly haven't bothered to use it except once or twice. What's the point in getting used to it as a daily driver when it won't be available in perpetuity?

      But in any event, you're still right that it won't affect those of us in that camp.

      • matheusmoreira 46 minutes ago
        It's still good for code review though. Would've been better were it not for the obnoxious cybersecurity filters that prevent the model from hardening the code.

        Lots of people are trying to get the most value out of it before it goes away.

  • nickandbro 2 hours ago
    Loosing Fable July 12th and getting usage cut by a third post July 13th is going to be rough. Looks like all the reporting about Anthropic trying their earnest to turn a profit this quarter is true. In the mean time, I will gladly switch to Codex. Their Pro plan gives you amble usage and only runs close when you are using the fast mode. And even if you run out of credits, they have given users so many credit resets this past month that you can just activate one of those after. I understand Fable is a great model, but switching to API usage will run many people thousands of dollars with the same usage from their subscription plans. Not worth it IMO.

    EDIT: corrected usage cut amount

    • alwillis 1 hour ago
      > Looks like all the reporting about Anthropic trying their earnest to turn a profit this quarter is true.

      That's not how any of this works.

      Anthropic is playing the long game; they're not going make a short-sighted decision just so they announce a profit for one quarter, which doesn’t mean much because it won’t be a sustainable profit since they're going to need to spend a ton of money on training and compute over the next few months.

      That's why they did a G funding round for $14 billion in February and $65 billion in May.

      I suspect one reason for switching Fable to API usage for the near future is they don't have enough compute for their enterprise customers and every hobbyist on their $20/month Pro plan, 80% of which don’t need Fable 5 anyway but that won't stop them from using it as much as they can.

      • nickandbro 47 minutes ago
        > which doesn’t mean much because it won’t be a sustainable profit since they're going to need to spend a ton of money on training and compute over the next few months.

        Never was arguing that it would be a sustained profit, just that they are. Most likely for the reasons you just listed.

    • robgough 2 hours ago
      What makes you think your usage is getting cut by 50% post July 13th? It's just that you can use up to 50% of your usage on Fable right now, and that is what is going away.

      I'm going to miss Fable too, I found it surprisingly tough going back to Opus when we lost Fable first time round, but paying API costs is simply out of the question for me right now.

    • rcfox 1 hour ago
      This is the first I'm hearing about a usage cut. Do you have a link to an announcement for this? Search hasn't shown anything.
      • nickandbro 1 hour ago
        Yeah it's right here:

        https://x.com/ClaudeDevs/status/2054639777685934564

        It's not phrased as a usage cut, but rather when their 50% higher limits ends.

        EDIT: its 33.3% less usage after July 13th

        • rcfox 1 hour ago
          Huh, it's wild that they didn't send an email about this. I can't imagine people taking this well, especially as they don't seem to be giving notice about the end of it either.
        • what 1 hour ago
          That’s not a cut? They gave you extra usage for a set time period, it was never part of your subscription.
    • user3939382 1 hour ago
      Subscription is ~$200/month. When I tried running on tokens it was ~$500/day for the same usage pattern.

      My guess is my usage is atypically high, but even if the average equivalent is $100-250/day you can get a sense of how much Anthropic is subsidizing subscriptions as a loss leader to lock market share. IMHO this is a doomed strategy since open models will get into a long tail of parity and they’ll ultimately essentially be in the business of commodity compute.

      • theptip 1 hour ago
        I think you need to consider how much dev mindshare you get from the loss-leader. Claude has grown at an insane rate. They brought vibe-coding mainstream.

        At some point they might decide they have enough demand and inertia from enterprise to reduce the subsidy. But to say “it’s doomed” really misses the fact that it has already been immensely successful.

        • visarga 1 hour ago
          We can switch in a heartbeat to a competitor, what kept us to Claude was that it had better models for a while. Closing Fable off means they are squarely inferior now.

          For me Opus 4.8 was a slow model with a strong habit of talking down to me in an obnoxious way that would not be possible to prompt away. GPT 5.5 is now my main driver for serious work.

        • verall 1 hour ago
          I think it's for the insane amount of data they get to collect. Most people probably don't turn off the "help improve other models" while corporations paying by the token have blanket no-train policies applied to everyone.
      • andxor 1 hour ago
        What makes you think the API costs are "the true price" and anywhere near their inference costs? Also what percentage of users do you think actually maxes out their subscription?

        I suspect they're subsidizing a lot less than people think.

        • alwillis 59 minutes ago
          > I suspect they're subsidizing a lot less than people think.

          Agreed.

          • edg5000 49 minutes ago
            We can look at openrouter GLM 5.2 prices I think to get a rough idea about the pure inference cost (with margin). They are probably running on simmilar hardware. Although scale helps Anthropic probably.
      • oezi 1 hour ago
        I track the subscription value against API rates and you get between 13-20k at current rates. When Fable launched I got 32k for a short time. 500 USD per day is thus very little.
    • eli_gottlieb 51 minutes ago
      > In the mean time, I will gladly switch to Codex.

      IME Codex had a bit of a big head/ego about writing what it thinks I ought to want rather than what I actually ask for, and I've had to spend some time cleaning up its slop.

  • mil22 2 hours ago
    If they pair this with a reset, then it will be good news. Otherwise we all just rushed to use our quota before the July 7th deadline for nothing.

    Corollary: use your quota now because a reset seems likely.

    • GaunterODimm 1 hour ago
      Yes, especially in light of possible GPT-5.6, any day now. No reset = easy switch to 5.6. nobody wants to drop that usage.
      • bdelmas 34 minutes ago
        I wonder if they are not just gonna wait that GPT-5.6 is released before doing any move.
    • alfg 1 hour ago
      I used up all my Fable credits over the weekend. Looks like mine just reset today.
    • jauntywundrkind 37 minutes ago
      I kind of think they force reset last week. Which actually instead of giving me two weekly cycles of use only gave me a single week of use.

      Every single thing about this is fuck users fuck your usage. All those subscriptions I bought to enjoy Fable for the time allotted? Basically gone, didn't get to use the ~4 weeks if cycles or so I had planned for, bought, anticipating. I got two. And now if I want one week more, I need to pay for a full month.

      Anthropic is just the most miserable evil grinch. Everything here has totally defied everything that's been laid out for what we were told we'd get and gotten worse and worse, with less and less. Anthropic cannot general an iota of goodwill.

    • yulker 2 hours ago
      it's incredible how volatile the product and pricing situation is right now. i struggle to find an equivalent industry that has been so all over the place and obtuse
      • usef- 1 hour ago
        I suspect it's the combination of wanting to capture market share (subsidised plans), being severely capacity limited in GPUs, and having bursty and absurd growth rates. There was speculation that Anthropic might be allocating fewer GPUs to training for a few days to allow people to use Fable.

        The actual API pricing seems far more of a stable downward trend, if measuring by equivalent intelligence.

      • scubadude 1 hour ago
        > i struggle to find an equivalent industry that has been so all over the place and obtuse

        No surprises, it's fundamentally built on promises and lies

  • spyware_suburbs 1 hour ago
    The most frustrating part is that everyone thought the access was ending on the seventh and used it up as much as possible only to have them say oh by the way on the 12th you can it'll go away and so you can keep using it. No one has any more fable usage tokens left? We all used it up they should've also reset people's weekly usage.
  • jnaina 1 hour ago
    for the first time, I'm rooting for the chinese to break the american monopoly on AI. although I have gemini, anthropic and openai subscriptions, I just opened an OpenRouter account and will be using more chinese open weights going forward.
    • bdelmas 32 minutes ago
      It’s only a question of time. I think right now 60% of AI paper published is from China. They are already the bests at cost optimization
  • throwatdem12311 2 hours ago
    The drug dealer sample strategy seems to work good for them.
    • replwoacause 1 hour ago
      Does it? Maybe. But I've grown weary of it. It feels like I'm in a relationship with a mercurial partner, never quite knowing where I stand.
  • ozozozd 29 minutes ago
    This reality show kind of bored me already. I haven’t even made an attempt to use Fable 5.

    Is it so amazing? Or is it the “intermittent reward” and exclusivity driving people to use it?

  • g42gregory 56 minutes ago
    I am using Opis 4.8 xhigh, in OMP.sh coding agent (full agent built on Pi), with Matt Pocock Skills installed.

    I don’t see a particular bump in code quality from Fable 5. In fact, it feels less reliable to me than my current setup. No sure why I am not seeing what everybody else is seeing.

    Perhaps OMP/Pi (head and shoulders better than Claude Code) + Matt Pocock Skills already encode all the agentic improvements Fable has?

  • leobuskin 51 minutes ago
    @anthropic, can you finally add $800-$1000 per month plan and allow us to work instead of tracking your weekly changes and dramas? I think, we (individuals, small-medium biz, first of all) did our best to help you train the model like Fable. Enterprise-level lockdown (and API costs define this) is... unfair? I mean, we all knew that you all will just use us, but it's AI, right? For people, right? Right?

    The only reason this is happening -> someone (US gov?) decided that it's time to bail out those who would inevitably die within a year or two otherwise, middlemen.

    • psyclobe 50 minutes ago
      Seriously, just let me fucking pay to get steady service 24/7.
      • sroussey 13 minutes ago
        Use console and pay API rates. Very predictable.
    • AuthAuth 47 minutes ago
      American Tech companies hate their users
    • altmanaltman 43 minutes ago
      There is absolutely 0 chance Anthropic or OpenAI will get a government bailout (it might still happen in this admin but it makes no sense). These companies are not like banks which are fundamentally important to the economy. Sure AI is important but Google is not going to die. Why would you save OpenAI and Anthropic when google, amazon or microsoft can just gobble them up when/if needed?

      The average taxpayer gets 0 benefits from LLM. It might change in the future but for now that is true. This was exactly the reverse with banking, everyone would lose their own money if the banks just disappear tomorrow

      • leobuskin 26 minutes ago
        That's not a bailout for AI labs, I meant the "bailout" for Salesforce and others. There's absolutely no place for them in the world where we have Fable+ models. For many of them. Most of them (we just didn't get this feeling yet). Someone just trying to maintain the old world order, that's all. I don't think US economy would fail if those absolutely useless giants would go down.
      • shaewest 34 minutes ago
        If you look at it from the perspective of the current US administration, they see that almost all GDP growth in the past year(?) has been related to data center growth. If all of a sudden that industry is gone, you're looking at GDP stagnation or drop that looks terrible for the current party, hence the potential for a bailout.

        Personally I hold the opinion that the investment into data centers would shift into something else, so no real GDP drop, but I'm not sure that's a certainty the same as 'bailout keeps the current story going'

        • janalsncm 25 minutes ago
          Imo the data centers is where things start to get scary. Anthropic and OpenAI aren’t themselves indispensable, but when all of the industries downstream of them taking on more and more debt to supply projected usage in the future I could see the USG forced to bail someone out, if only to shore up their creditors.
      • pfannkuchen 34 minutes ago
        > everyone would lose their own money if the banks just disappear tomorrow

        Sure, but only because banks are legally allowed to lie to customers about how much money they have.

  • linsomniac 2 hours ago
    Kind of shooting themselves in the foot here. In the process of getting all my Fable use in, I'm also at 68% on overall week limit and 5 days left. So not only am I likely to be using OpenAI much more heavily this week, I'm going to be doing it while being slightly annoyed at Anthropic.
    • Salgat 2 hours ago
      Anthropic wants companies that use API billing. Their growth period through hooking individual users who bring it to the business is over.
      • jofzar 1 hour ago
        Unless they change it so there's no data training/retention for fable, I don't even understand what company is using API fable.
  • winterbourne 33 minutes ago
    Everyone scrambling to max their usage before the deadline may have given Anthropic some valuable data on exactly how much compute they can handle. The extension could also be a play to minimize the effect of OpenAI's next move.

    Even if they grant a reset, the ball is now in OpenAI's court.

  • minimaxir 11 hours ago
    Previously, access was set to expire today (July 7th)

    It is theorized that OpenAI may time the release of GPT 5.6 in Codex to convert people who have lost access to Fable, so this is an interesting game theoric consequence.

    • bathory 10 hours ago
      It is, many people are hungry for GPT-5.6, considering it is supposed to be Fable class, with lower costs. Many Claude users were ready to jump ship.
      • roncesvalles 10 hours ago
        Also consider that Fable launched on June 9. Many people including myself bought a 1-month Anthropic subscription just to use Fable.

        By extending it to July 12, they're gonna get a second month out of a lot of such people. If it really expired today, I wasn't going to renew my month.

        • LoganDark 9 hours ago
          I immediately downgraded my subscription as soon as they revoked access, then upgraded it again once Fable came back. So they're getting no extra month out of me unless they keep Fable available.
          • skeledrew 2 hours ago
            Isn't the plan locked for the month though? I don't see them processing refunds for anyone who starts with Max and downgrades to Pro. Although the converse wouldn't be true: they'd be happy to upgrade a plan at any point.
    • handfuloflight 11 hours ago
      It was foreseen.
  • JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago
    I've been on Anthropic's subscription product for a few months. I pay annually.

    I miss Kagi's multi-model product [1]. Anthropic's nonsense around releasing, deprecating, optimising/lobotomising is tiring, and isn't matched by the value of running different models against each other.

    Fable has been fine. But its reliablity is crap. The constant downgrading is crap. This last-minute promotional windowing reeks of JCPenney pre-bankruptcy, not a trusted tool. I hate the Electron app–it's slow and ugly and shows Claude isn't trusted by its own makers with app development. I'm using 4.8 instead of dealing with the pop-ups saying my asking why basil browns is causing my account to be downgraded, and I'm still not sure if that's a nerfed 4.7.

    [1] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/plans/ultimate-plan.html

  • freedomben 9 hours ago
    The opacity and unpredictability of Anthropic is really starting to become more than just an annoyance. I'm glad they're extending access, but the roller coaster is really starting to cause whiplash.

    If they're eventually going to add Fable to the subscription plan, I wish they'd say something about that now, or at least confirm if they don't plan to for awhile. The feeling I get is they don't want to make any announcements because they are flying by the seat of their pants and want to see what their competition does first.

    • dboreham 1 hour ago
      They have an IPO to launch, so they're not going to do that.
  • dsmurrell 3 hours ago
    I planned to use all my allowance in 6 hours time (the time they said it would be around until) for the week and then they extend it so that I burned almost all of them in a wasteful way without having the time to review things properly.
    • krackers 2 hours ago
      If they were going to do this, they must have known a few days in advance. Feels intentional.
    • cjbgkagh 2 hours ago
      This is the second time you posted essentially the same message 40 minutes later, are you stuck in a loop? I wonder if people are looping in addition to their AI agents.
      • ValentineC 2 hours ago
        I'm guessing dang might have merged some of the submissions.
      • dsmurrell 2 hours ago
        I queued it up with Fable, now my limit is reached. What do you use your limits for? To check other people's comments on various threads? :)
  • gorgmah 9 hours ago
    Now I'm wondering if the 84% probability of GPT-5.6 release on polymarket on july 9th is about to drop substantially (in order to release while fable is at extra cost, like everyone seems to anticipate)? If they miss thursday release, does it mean they'll release Sol on next tuesday?
  • testycool 10 hours ago
    I was rushing to make the most of Fable today, and I'm at 67%, with limit reset on July 11th.

    If would've used it more moderately if I had known in advance.

    • internet2000 10 hours ago
      Same here. 20% usage already with just half a day usage. Wish they'd commit to keeping it on Max, even if severely limited.
    • dsmurrell 3 hours ago
      Same here, I'm at 98% :(

      They think they're giving you something when they're actually taking something away.

  • replwoacause 1 hour ago
    I can honestly say that as a paying customer, I'm getting a bit tired of being jerked around by this company. It's on again, off again. Snip snap snip. And by the way, telling people there's a deadline so they all scramble to use their "Fable allowances" before being cut off, only to then be told "just kidding, here's 5 more days" without getting a usage reset is just another frustrating and disappointing customer experience.

    Seriously, all OAI needs to do at this point is just release GPT 5.6, have it be a solid model and then not jerk it out of the hands of their customers, and they're going to eat Anthropic's lunch.

    • nadermx 1 hour ago
      Sure not the best user experience. But maybe they thought compute was gonna be more, or maybe fable helped them optimize under load.
    • matheusmoreira 57 minutes ago
      I'm tired too. I'll switch to OpenAI if Sol is available on subscription models.
    • mil22 1 hour ago
      Agreed, but let's not forget to put at least some of the blame on the Trump administration for the export control fiasco.
      • matheusmoreira 56 minutes ago
        Anthropic literally asked for it.
        • mil22 43 minutes ago
          [dead]
      • jaykru 1 hour ago
        They begged publicly, multiple times to be regulated. This is before even mentioning the gross exaggeration of their model's dangerous capabilities.
        • mil22 56 minutes ago
          I don't think that exculpates the Trump administration for its arbitrary and capricious use of export controls, an ill-suited legal mechanism, without reasonable process or justification - thereby forcing Anthropic to scramble.
  • fearmerchant 8 hours ago
    For coding Opus 4.8 with ultracode is near perfect and doesn't grind away as many tokens. Fable is advertised as 2x the tokens but in my experience it is closer to 5x what I burn with Opus 4.8.
    • cjbgkagh 2 hours ago
      I only use Fable on things Opus 4.8 would struggle too much with, and as my harness improves that’s less and less. That or they dialed up the intelligence on Opus.
    • andai 8 hours ago
      Do you mean in tokens or in $?
  • kelnos 1 hour ago
    Still definitely not trying it if I'm gonna lose access on my subscription plan.

    "First hit is free", indeed.

  • gck1 9 hours ago
    I have a really hard time understanding how anyone is ready to pay $200/mo to be put on such a rollercoaster all the time.

    I've used fable, it's great. But nothing beats predictability - ever.

    This truly feels like some form of emotional abuse/manipulation at this point.

    • brookst 1 hour ago
      I pay $200/mo because my opus usage alone is >$10k/mo at api rates. Do you think I’m making a mistake?
      • Culonavirus 21 minutes ago
        I read posts like these all the time and I keep wondering when they'll begin to tighten the screws on the prosumers. I think most, if not all, $200/mo individual accounts are blasting high multiples of that amount in tokens. I mean we know that doesn't work with current inference costs, not by a longshot, so I guess this is just a way to pad their numbers like "look, we're growing our user base!" while they can still somewhat hide the "actually, we're hemorrhaging money on inference" in their accounting.
      • gck1 1 hour ago
        [dead]
    • DonsDiscountGas 5 hours ago
      I pay that much and don't even use Fable because everything I do involves biology
      • Kim_Bruning 1 hour ago
        I feel your pain. Apparently I still do a lot of biology in my day-to-day and in my thinking, so fable jumps the tracks a lot for me.
    • winwang 9 hours ago
      I would pay $200/mo for Opus 4.8 already. Fable 5 is just a cherry on top (although, without it, Codex 5.5 is the better buy imo).
    • cjbgkagh 2 hours ago
      I would pay vastly more, I think it’s incredible value. If I had no other choice I think I’d pay up to $1K per day. The amount of work I’m getting through is absolutely immense.
      • laichzeit0 1 hour ago
        Same. I don’t know what Mickey Mouse work people are doing that 4.8 is “enough”. CRUD apps maybe?

        I have some serious Bayesian statistical research programs running and Fable is on another level than 4.8. It feels like Andrew Gelman is supervising it. Even the vision model on Fable is superior to 4.8 which is great for having it digest research papers.

    • hosel 8 hours ago
      Oh gee $2000 worth of tokens from the best available model for $200 wonder how people shell out that kind of cash
    • dboreham 1 hour ago
      I pay $200/mo and they provide me a tool that writes all the code I want. Seems like a great deal to me.
  • cromka 8 hours ago
    I think HN deserves a collective round of applause on this one: almost everyone here predicted this would happen.
  • isaac77 3 hours ago
    I believe these labs really nailed the restrictions on independence for these models. I have seen collegues coding bs with fable 5. Genuinely, the skill issues is feel by the agent and the output is alike
  • dsmurrell 3 hours ago
    Hmm, so I planned to use all my allowance in 6 hours time (the time they said it would be around until) for the week and then they extend it so that I burned almost all of them in a wasteful way without having the time to review things properly.
  • nh43215rgb 1 hour ago
    does it matter much? i find my claude code experience always downgraded from fable to opus anyway.
  • fcanesin 2 hours ago
    Anthropic: reminder that DeepSeek-V4 GA version is expected to debut on July 13 as showcase for the release of the Huawei Ascend 950dt
  • Sevii 1 hour ago
    On July 12th they will extend it again.
    • brookst 1 hour ago
      Perhaps. I don’t blame them for short horizons given capacity constraints, government mayhem, etc. Promising anything more than a week at a time seems fraught.
  • yieldcrv 20 minutes ago
    like a fent plug on Market st
  • linsomniac 2 hours ago
    Man, this "Fable" has been rough. Last week we get access to it again, then they reset usage after a day or two with no warning. Lots of "missed" Fable time because I was pacing it for a reset 5 days down the line. Use up all my Fable time last week, resets Sunday and I don't have enough work projects to burn up the tokens by today, so I burn them on some toy and side projects, which I wouldn't have done if I knew I was going to have it until Sunday. Now I'm at 100% and they give out more access.

    It would have been WAY more useful for them to announce the extension, you know, yesterday. This is basically the worst time for them to announce it. Bunch of goobers, who thought this would be a good idea?

    • JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago
      > Use up all my Fable time last week

      I'm spending more time catering to Fable and Anthropic's B.S. than solving problems with Fable. I'm increasingly convinced not getting this deeply baked into single models and going back deep learning on topics of interest is both more fun and useful. (This week: chlorophyll chemistry under heat, also the Sri Lankan civil war.)

  • hbarka 10 hours ago
    Looks like we are at the end of the frontier-level models at subscription pricing. After this grace period, it will be double the cost at paid-per-token usage. I’m counting on the other models to compete at the subscription level and I need my harness to be agnostic. I need an AI harness that lets me switch LLM models dynamically depending on the task.
    • skeledrew 2 hours ago
      > I need an AI harness that lets me switch LLM models dynamically depending on the task.

      OpenRouter put up something about this a few days ago. Check out their Advisor and Subagent docs.

  • bbor 41 minutes ago
    Thank you, Anthropic. This random drop in the bucket wants you to know that this was a big deal for them!
  • jauntywundrkind 10 hours ago
    Rather smart way to keep a bunch of subscriptions subscribed.

    I still feel a bit salty I got so much less out of the time I thought I was buying. And I stayed up late asking Fable for what giant leaps and potentials and architectural rewrites might benefit various side projects, so I kind of got what I wanted.

    But I'll probably keep one of my pro accounts, for just a bit more usage.

    • dicey 8 hours ago
      I half expected OpenAI to make GPT 5.6 available today, just to tempt people to switch over. Either way, I'm glad Fable is staying accessible, it's been fun.
  • Computer0 9 hours ago
    Very expensive, not sure how it fits in with many companies seemingly trying to get employees using models at about Sonnet tier pricing. I certainly would never pay API rates for it, using ccusage I am seeing myself "use" $150-$400 worth of fable per day. (https://www.theinformation.com/articles/tesla-caps-employee-...)
    • andai 8 hours ago
      That's funny. Sonnet is not great in my opinion. I mean, it often amazes me with its creativity, and I do prefer its style over most bigger models from other providers.

      But it also constantly just does dumb things that make me slap my forehead. Opus is a lot better but the slap ratio has not reached 0 yet. Fable seems a bit better there, more testing needed.

      But yeah, VC money ran out, now we wait for Moore's Law... :)

      --

      Re: Sonnet-ish-pricing. GLM-5.2 is cheaper than that, and appears to be "Opus-ish" in quality. I've been having a reasonably fine time with it. My experience is that it's "very solid for small and medium tasks", haven't tested it for anything bigger though.

      • Computer0 7 hours ago
        I use GLM 5.2 through Opencode Go, but find it to be quite slow when you get to higher contexts (80k+) through their provider so I have not been able to test too much.
        • copperx 3 hours ago
          Do they disclose their providers? I haven't found any info.
  • cyanydeez 4 hours ago
    ...because there's not enough token addicts and we need a proper set of whales.
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