Chopping up books when they're physically too big

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52 points | by matt_kirkland 2 hours ago

23 comments

  • prydt 1 hour ago
    I came to a similar realization recently. I used to care so much about how pristine my books looked and then I realized that some of my favorite books I have found in used bookstores are ones which are written all over and have a well-worn feel to them. I now annotate all my books with pencil and also write my name in them. I love seeing a history of who's owned a given book when I open the front cover and see a name and phone number.
    • jimnotgym 50 minutes ago
      I once read that the only way you can actually damage a book, is by not reading it.
  • SmasherEpilepti 1 hour ago
    At that rate, you might as well buy and use an e-reader instead. It really doesn't get any more comfortable in the hands than a light device like a Kobo or whatever one you prefer.
    • ocd 1 hour ago
      I somewhat liked my Kobo except for how much Rakuten kept getting more aggressive with forcing their environment on me. And then my Kobo decided to wipe and reset itself on its own, losing all of my bookmarks and other data.

      Nice hardware concept, completely unacceptable software.

      • benterris 27 minutes ago
        You should check out KOReader [1], an OSS alternative interface software for ereaders. I have it installed on my kobo and I couldn't be happier with it.

        [1] https://koreader.rocks/

        • ocd 22 minutes ago
          My grievance is mainly with the overall firmware/software that has such deep control over storage and all. I've tried KOReader and Plato, but it's just replacing the document reader.
    • moffkalast 8 minutes ago
      And you don't even have to hold it open and mess with bookmarks which at least to me was always super annoying. And the built in lamp, chapter search and dictionary. And single tap page forward and back. Physical books are beyond obsolete imho.
    • davisr 1 hour ago
      I chop my books and read them on my reMarkable tablet. It really doesn't get any better.

      https://www.davisr.me/projects/books/

      • SmasherEpilepti 1 hour ago
        That's cool and all, but I generally prefer my text reflowable, and find PDF reading on any not-huge e-reader to be a pain in the ass. It's worth it for things that are rich in figures and formatting (like House of Leaves, many textbooks, comics and manga, etc), but for the typical novel or non-fiction book, I really do want just text and the most minimal formatting and layout instructions possible, so I can configure to my own comfort, not to whatever the publisher has decided they want me to see.
        • davisr 17 minutes ago
          You must have forgotten the point of this thread was about chopping books.
  • spudlyo 48 minutes ago
    This seems like a lot of work for not a huge payoff. I get that the feel and experience of a physical book has a certain nostalgia, but for me, I'd just leave the big monster on the shelf and grab an epub from Anna's Archive. You have already ensured the author and publisher get paid, you might as well read on an e-reader, which is in my opinion superior in nearly every way to a physical book.

    Ebooks sync across devices, allow for a customized presentation, quick dictionary lookups, bookmarks, etc. The only slight edge I'll give to a physical book is the ability to easily make marginal notes in pencil -- I realize that ebooks have this feature too, it's just not as immediate or as frictionless.

    • NoahZuniga 33 minutes ago
      This post isn't aimed at people that read a physical book for "nostalgia". They read a lot of books and have already decided that they prefer physical books to an ereader.
    • stronglikedan 34 minutes ago
      The problem with ebooks is that you cannot be 100% certain that you're reading the original text. That can only be preserved in physical copies. That's why the destructive book scanning for AI is such a tragedy. There's already plenty of examples of original texts being surreptitiously revised, and it happens with videos too.
    • milesvp 33 minutes ago
      I had to stop reading one of my favorite authors when I was doing infant duty with my oldest. The books kept getting thicker, and I could no longer one hand them comfortably reading either end of the novel due to the book's balance. I found a kindle mostly solved my problems, and I could keep reading again one handed.

      That said, it never occurred to me to just cut up my book, so I could continue to read it comfortably. I think I might have chosen to do so though, since I find the tactile nature of reading a physical book to be more memorable than digital. Where the words sit on the page, and the act of turning the page, the smell, all does something to my neurons. For my junk novels, I don't really care, but for the authors I cherish, the closer to the printed word I can get the better the experience I have, and the more memorable the writing in general.

    • ex-aws-dude 33 minutes ago
      Nah there's a lot of reasons to prefer physical

      * You own it forever

      * Nothing to charge

      * Don't have yet another screen to stare at

      * Its the definitive way to collect books (similar in the sense of vinyl for music)

      * Going to used bookstores is awesome

      * Seeing your whole collection physically is awesome and can be a conversation starter

      * Graphic novels/comics are still better physical

  • juiceland 26 minutes ago
    If the gutter is wide enough, you can have them rebound with spiral binding. This is incredible useful for holding or putting a book flat. I did this to all my textbooks in college.
    • GolfPopper 15 minutes ago
      This is probably just a personal quirk, but I despise spiral bindings. I hate the feel of them. They never hold together. They catch on everything and come apart. Pages get torn far more easily. They make the books - if you can even call spiral-bound stacks if paper that - more difficult to organize. They suck.
      • bluGill 2 minutes ago
        I hate my non-spiral bound music books - they never sit well on a music stand. However for all other books I agree, spiral sucks.
  • omoikane 33 minutes ago
    I wonder why the publishers insist on selling thick books like that. The books I read tend to come in multiple volumes, and it's not like I would finish it all at once so I just need to carry at most one or two volumes.
  • froobius 58 minutes ago
    I think it's fun. You'll also get the IKEA effect helping you to appreciate the book more

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IKEA_effect

  • DavidVoid 36 minutes ago
    I wish more books would come in the same format as the Macmillan Collector's Library series of books. They're tiny hardback books with thin pages. I just checked my copy of Moby Dick, it's about 770 pages, but the book has a very pocket-able size of just 15.6×10×3.5 cm (6.2×4×1.4").
  • madewithdrama 30 minutes ago
    Nice comment section. Is it necessary to bring up ebooks whenever print books are mentioned? I haven't heard a worthwhile opinion on the matter in at least 15 years. Anyways, cool post.
    • phoronixrly 12 minutes ago
      No, it's necessary only when the alternative is to mutilate the print edition...
  • starkparker 20 minutes ago
    One of the more unintentional "reject modernity, embrace tradition" posts on this site. In a world where this catches on someone will come up with the bright idea of serialized novels again. It's like a payment plan for a book! More watercooler moments waiting for the next volume! Authors incorporating fan feedback between volumes! Imagine all the Dickensian possibilities.
    • mrec 16 minutes ago
      Plenty of webfiction out there which is exactly this. It does tend to fall into the trap of going on forever though.
      • bluGill 1 minute ago
        There is a lot of web fiction out there that would be better if the authors had written "the end" a few years ago.
    • pfdietz 18 minutes ago
      > someone will come up with the bright idea of serialized novels again

      You mean, like on Reddit? ;)

  • themanmaran 46 minutes ago
    I have very fond memories of reading hitchhikers guide to the galaxy with a friend in highschool. The book was old and had already started falling apart, and so we just broke it up into chapters and would pass it to the next person one chapter at a time.
  • dinkleberg 25 minutes ago
    Giving yourself the old playstation experience. Please insert Disc 2.
  • philips 1 hour ago
    This is exactly why I love e-books as an adult.

    As a kid I loved "pocket books"[1] because they didn't make my hand feel weak trying to hold them on a road trip and I could fit a few in my backpack.

    But, obviously, not every work was published in a pocket book format.

    [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_Books

    • jrmg 52 minutes ago
      These are more generically known as ‘mass market paperbacks’ - and are sadly basically extinct:

      https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/articles/end-mass-market-pap...

      Last year, ReaderLink, the country's largest distributor of books to airports, pharmacies and big-box stores, announced that it would no longer carry mass markets. The books can still be found in some places, but "as a format, I would say it's pretty much over," Ivan Held, the president of publishing imprints Putnam, Dutton and Berkley, said to the Times.

      I too mourn them - much more of a convenient size than the now ubiquitous ‘trade paperback’ - but we’re obviously in a small minority.

  • shevy-java 10 minutes ago
    That advice makes no sense.

    In fact - many old huge books are epic. I remember in the early 1990s we had a huge book about history. It detailed each year with the most important events. I loved reading in it. Even today I like it.

    Unfortunately I am also now part of the digital-only guys, so I have not bought a hardcopy paper books in quite a while (excluding one exception for Raymond Feist, but by and large I only read .pdf files nowadays). So I store things in .pdf files mostly. I also hate .epub files and refuse to use them.

    I still have many old books here, but new books rarely come up and I only keep books I find interesting or important or I may re-read. For instance I have one small hardcopy of 1984; I think it is an important book. And a few more like that. But I barely have any new paper books.

    I don't presently have any really huge book. Not sure what I will do should I inherit huge books. On the one hand, having them is kind of cool, but I don't want to keep them in a library or shelf either, so ... I will probably not use it. But I would not chop up any book, not even on a first april. It just seems totally pointless and also defeats the point of having huge books. Huge books are kind of cool. Not practical but cool.

  • utopiah 1 hour ago
    At this point if you don't care at all for the book itself as an object just buy an xteink-x3 with CrossPoint or PocketBook then install Koreader.
  • OroPla 1 hour ago
    Here I thought this was about shredding your books and going completely digital to save space.
  • gowld 46 minutes ago
    Quick, someone make a startup to print chopped-up-books on demand.
  • usewik 1 hour ago
    I do like when books are wrapped, but to the idea of separating them into parts, I would say probably not worth it. Most books I find myself reading lately are pretty dense, and so my focus is on fitting material in my mind and imagination, i.e. into Gardens of the Moon right now, and I am switching between audiobook, small paperback and companion Claude code wrote for me to help me keep track and visualize what's happening. But hey, if it helps you focus on reading, and you own the book, why not? I do think it is better to just go to your library and work through what they have to offer, without buying the books, so that, hopefully leaves slicing off the table.
  • specproc 51 minutes ago
    I just did a little sick
  • globular-toast 1 hour ago
    I would never do this normally, but when I walked the Camino Primitivo the guidebook contained other routes so was more than twice as big as it needed to. Weight matters so I tore out the bit I needed.

    I read most fiction these days on my Kobo. I prefer physical volumes when I'm sitting at a desk.

  • drayfield 1 hour ago
    I hate this. Of course it's your property, you do what you want with it. Do your own illustrations, annotate with abandon, get out the red pen for editing practise... But for me, I love nothing more than reading a book so big that I practically live in it.
    • Rendello 1 hour ago
      I recently wanted to try one of Kató Lomb's [1][2] preferred language-learning methods: getting a book in a foreign language and reading it (and re-reading it), figuring out words and phrases as if it's a big puzzle and writing them in the margins. From her book "How I Learn Languages" (1970):

      > I recommend buying your own books for language learning. They can be spiced with underlines, question marks, and exclamation points; they can be thumbed and dog-eared, plucked to their essential core, and annotated so that they become a mirror of yourself.

      > What shall you write in the margins? Only the forms and phrases you have understood and figured out from the context.

      > Ignore what you can’t immediately understand. If a word is important, it will occur several times and explain itself anyway. Base your progress on the known, not the un- known. The more you read, the more phrases you will write in the margins. The relationship that develops between you and the knowledge you obtain will be much deeper than if you had consulted the dictionary automatically. The sense of achievement provides you with an emotional-affective charge: You have sprung open a lock; you have solved a little puzzle.

      I can't really bring myself to write in the books themselves though, so I've been using separate paper. It feels wrong, even in a cheap book, like I'm defiling it.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kat%C3%B3_Lomb

      https://hn.algolia.com/?q=Kat%C3%B3+Lomb

      • robocat 34 minutes ago
        I'm no polyglot, but talking and reading are very different skills.

        My personal working theory:

        Native speakers learn to speak first, then they learn to read and write.

        From talking with high-level ESOL speakers, those that learned from written material have some very strange patterns of mistakes you can hear in their English - where they've programmed their pronunciation incorrectly very early on with basic mistakes.

        Although English is an outlier here. Because English native speakers learn lots of different ways to manage how speaking and spelling are different. Plus because making speaking mistakes after learning words in books is such a social status mistake.

        Personally I think if you want to learn a language, the ideal is with someone who corrects all mistakes, as though one is a baby. Although it is difficult to find this even when one can spend months in a foreign country. Not everyone feels comfortable correcting an adult.

        The people that have learned English that I have spoken with that are the best all have a common trait: they've lived in a country and they MIMIC. The most amazing was a hippy Japanese guy: I remember one sentence where he shifted in the middle from broad East London to a strong Aussie accent due to where he learned the words.

        I learnt conversational Spanish when I was 30. Next attempt will be 2-3 months immersed Korean as a middle aged guy so I'm looking forward to trying out my opinions!

        • Rendello 22 minutes ago
          I learned French mostly through conversation and immersion. This next language is pretty simple phonologically, and I'm not concerned about having a good accent in it, so the reading-puzzle route is something interesting to try.
  • ArbriT 45 minutes ago
    I am so confused
  • dan_p 21 minutes ago
    Was this blog post written by Anthropic?
    • wffurr 4 minutes ago
      Did you read it?