4 comments

  • rao-v 3 hours ago
    I really like this approach! I sort of think of the vision encoder here as an expensive high fidelity RAG encoder.

    The thing I’d love to do with a system like this is train it to be KV cache ordering independent (ie permutation invariant at the page level). Basically each page’s KV cache should be understandable by the model in any ordering - which would allow you to go one step further and treat the KV cache of the vision encoded page as the chunk for the model to reason over.

    Then all these zoom in for more detail tricks will extend naturally.

  • taylorfinley 1 hour ago
    Oh My Pi has done this for a while now, they call it Snap compact.
    • dvt 1 hour ago
      I remember reading a paper entitled "A Picture is Worth a Thousand Tokens" or something similar like 2-3 years ago. The reality is that no one really wants/needs contexts that big, anyway. It's hard enough making LLMs truly useful even with a small/medium context.
      • wangii 34 minutes ago
        yep, deepseek
    • 2muchtime 1 hour ago
      Ha! Didn’t realize that’s what it was doing, I’d compact and it would say snap compact with a little icon of a camera, so this all makes sense now.
  • lathoa 3 hours ago
    Interesting approach. thanks
  • lohr13 1 hour ago
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