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  • dzdt 47 minutes ago
    The forensic report on the failure of the cable sockets is at https://www.thorntontomasetti.com/sites/default/files/2022-0.... Unlike the linked article this includes detailed diagrams and discussion explaining how these sockets worked and how they failed.

    My attempt at a quick summary: the Arecibo instruments were held up by heavy steel cables, which are composed of a bundle of 126 to 216 individual wire strands twisted together, where each wire strand is about 1/4 inch diameter. At the cable ends these were anchored in sockets. The socket is conical, widening out towards where the wire ends go. The wire strands of the cable would be separated in a "broom" shape to fill out that conical area, and then the whole thing filled in with molten zinc.

    The failure mode of these zinc-filled sockets is for an inner core cylinder, about the same diameter as the cable body, to pull out from the socket while outer strands of the cable which are broomed out of that core either snap or pull free from the zinc plug.

    This failure mode hadn't really been seen prior to the Arecibo collapse, partly because it is a long term process where the zinc slowly flows under stress over decades.

    • BonoboIO 3 minutes ago
      Thanks for the quick summary
  • snypher 1 day ago
    (2024). Here's the report 'Failure Analysis of the Arecibo Observatory 305-Meter Telescope Collapse'

    https://www.nationalacademies.org/read/26982/chapter/1#vi

    • jacquesm 2 hours ago
      This is the better link. The meat is on page 2.
  • metalman 17 hours ago
    not good, not good at all, as this is how ALL bridges and towers are supported, the basic engineering bieng that any cable end will be stronger than the cable itself and will last longer than the cable itself, except now, when it isn't, not good, not easy to inspect, not easy to service.
    • ceejayoz 1 hour ago
      > Long-term low-current electroplasticity, induced by the electromagnetic waves from the Arecibo telescope itself, may have sped up the zinc creep, it says.

      I presume we aren't using most bridges as interstellar antennas.

      • tejtm 38 minutes ago
        > I presume we aren't using most bridges as interstellar antennas.

        any like area of metal will receive as much interstellar emissions but I guess they did run a MW transmitter sometimes.

      • AngryData 1 hour ago
        No, but there is a lot of potential for large structures to act like an accidental antenna and/or receive low level voltages from the environment or other equipment.

        Likely won't matter in most cases, but there could be a few disasters waiting around.

      • xattt 1 hour ago
        That’s what the government (… and most rational people) wants you to think.
        • grim_io 45 minutes ago
          how could the government control the birds without using bridges as antennas?!
    • msandford 2 hours ago
      They also mentioned that this is the first example of the unknown phenomena that caused the creep. This technology has been in use quite successfully for more than 100 years.
    • sanex 2 hours ago
      Bridges probably shouldn't be subject to the same electromagnetic radiation that gets focused by the telescope though so ideally not a problem there.
      • drum55 1 hour ago
        Where the cables were there’s nothing focused, just wires, it was outside of the dish.